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Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby Boxer2500 » Fri May 14, 2010 10:22 pm

Bad Cops, Bad Cops, What'cha Gonna Do...

The justice system got one right, this time. IMO, any crime committed by a cop in the line of duty ought to carry double the comparable sentence for a civilian. Enforcing the law does not place one above the law.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=7441887

TOLEDO, OH (WTVG) -- After several hours of deliberating, the jury has found Officer White guilty of felonious assault with a gun specification. He could face up to 11 years.

At around 8 pm on Friday, 13abc learned White was found guilty. That morning, the prosecutor and defense attorney gave closing arguments. Prosecutors say Officer Thomas White failed to protect and serve when he shot Michael McCloskey Junior in the back and paralyzed him. The jury had to decide if Officer White was justified in the shooting.

The defense argued Officer White believed McCloskey had a gun and feared for his life. Prosecutor Jeff Lingo says, "Officer White rushed to judgment, shot, critically injured, permanently disabled McCloskey for traffic violations."

White's attorney Jerome Phillips says, "You don't get a time out and go and tap the individual on the shoulder and say before we enter the next phase, the dangerous phase, where I'm going to have my gun out, and let's talk about this and see what's going on."
(Copyright ©2010 WTVG-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)


Video of the shooting...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjjq7Uua264
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby meteorite » Sat May 15, 2010 6:40 pm

I find it ironic that at the moment this topics comes up directly paired with the Maryland taping story in this thread. Creates quite a thought-provoking apposition, doesn't it?

At the moment locally we have a knock down, drag-out fight brewing on police accountability. Basically, under our law if a civilian death or injury results from the action of a police officer, the case is investigated by a Special Investigations Unit independent of the local police force. Right now the cops are claiming that they have the right to wait until they have counsel present before responding to questioning, and their union lawyer - who may act for all subject and witness officers involved - is legally obliged to tell all his clients what he knows, and can vet their notebooks before they are turned in.

To say that this is not going down well with the SIU is a definite understatement, and they are threatening legal action. The provincial ministers in the opposing portfolios - solicitor-general which runs the police, attorney-general who deals with the courts and administration of justice, are also somewhat at loggerheads. We may yet end up with quite a brawl.
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby meteorite » Sun May 16, 2010 5:34 pm

Keeping the fuzz under control is no small challenge at the best of times, especially with the right wing finding it so profitable to use the politics of fear to scare the voters. They never get an argument over spending more on the cops or the armed forces, though they should.

Breaching the Blue Wall is not easy and politically very unrewarding, however much it needs doing.
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby Jay » Mon May 17, 2010 2:44 pm

Someone should tell Sheriff Joe Arpiao in Nazizona. He loves violating the civil rights of people. Google his name, if you aren't familiar with his tactics.

A high school classmate, who was my best man, lives in Surprise, AZ., and unfortunately, has turned very right wing. He loves Sheriff Joe. I may have to cut off all communication with him. His views really piss me off.
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby Boxer2500 » Mon May 17, 2010 4:29 pm

Jay wrote:Someone should tell Sheriff Joe Arpiao in Nazizona. He loves violating the civil rights of people. Google his name, if you aren't familiar with his tactics.

A high school classmate, who was my best man, lives in Surprise, AZ., and unfortunately, has turned very right wing. He loves Sheriff Joe. I may have to cut off all communication with him. His views really piss me off.


An acquaintance of mine who shall remain nameless proudly tells the tale of honking a loogie in Sheriff Joe's dinner when he worked at a Phoenix area restaurant. Said it was the only time in 20 years of culinary work that he felt compelled to screw with someone's food.
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby meteorite » Mon May 17, 2010 6:44 pm

Haven't managed to snag it yet, but there is now a video of the incident on YouTube - and it seems to make it very clear that the cops are lying. Here's the story:

Atty: Video shows police fired into Detroit home
AP - Monday, May 17, 2010 2:30:52 PM By COREY WILLIAMS and ED WHITE

Police who carried out a raid on a family home that left a 7-year-old girl dead over the weekend were accompanied by a camera crew for a reality television show, and an attorney says video of the siege contradicts the police account of what happened.

Geoffrey Fieger, an attorney for the family of young Aiyana Jones, said he has seen three or four minutes of video of the raid, although he declined to say whether it was shot by the crew for the A&E series "The First 48," which has been shadowing Detroit homicide detectives for months.

Police have said officers threw a flash grenade through the first-floor window of the two-family home, and that an officer's gun discharged, killing the girl, during a struggle or after colliding with the girl's grandmother inside the home.

But Fieger said the video shows an officer lobbing the grenade and then shooting into the home from the porch.

"There is no question about what happened because it's in the videotape," Fieger said. "It's not an accident. It's not a mistake. There was no altercation."

"Aiyana Jones was shot from outside on the porch. The videotape shows clearly the officer throwing through the window a stun grenade-type explosive and then within milliseconds of throwing that, firing a shot from outside the home," he said.

A&E spokesman Dan Silberman said neither he nor anyone else from the network would comment about the case, and he denied a request by The Associated Press for the footage.

Detroit police were trying to obtain the film crew's footage, Assistant Chief Ralph Godbee said Monday.

Fieger said the investigation into what happened during the raid "needed to go no further than the videotape."

"The videotape shows clearly that the assistant police chief and the officers on the scene are engaging in an intentional cover up of the events," Fieger said. He said more than one camera was recording at the scene, and that the footage includes sound.

Police arrested the target of the raid, a 34-year-old man suspected of killing a 17-year-old boy, in the upstairs unit in the two-family home. Police had warrants to search both properties, and family members of the slain girl were seen going in and out of both on Monday. The suspect has not been charged, and it was not immediately clear what relationship he had to the slain girl.

The case has been handed over to the Michigan State Police to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest, Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said Monday.

Some, including the slain girl's family and others, have questioned what effect the cameras may have had on the tactics used to conduct the raid on the home, which had toys strewn about the front lawn on Monday.

Two prominent criminal defense attorneys said they were unaware of past instances when Detroit police used flash grenades in raids when children were possibly present.

"That's a new one," said Detroit lawyer Corbett Edge O'Meara. "That does seem to be a pretty extreme measure. It doesn't surprise me that the police had no concern whether they were endangering the lives of children when they made this raid."

Attorney Marvin Barnett was more blunt: "I've never heard that before in my entire career, that you've thrown a flash bomb in a house unless you've got an armed suspect and you know there is nobody else in the house."

"I'd like to know who gave the order to do that," Barnett said.

Godbee said the department was confident the film crew's presence had no effect on how the raid was conducted. He said the police department's use of flash grenades is decided on a "case by case" basis.

"It primarily goes to the severity of the crime and the potential of violence from the offender we're trying to get in custody," Godbee said.

He declined to comment on whether the officers involved in the raid were aware children were in the home.

"Our tactics absolutely will be addressed and assessed at the appropriate time," Godbee said.

The family was left searching for answers. They retained Fieger, a high-powered attorney who also represented assisted suicide advocate Dr. Jack Kevorkian, but the girl's father said he wants to know what led to his daughter's death.

"They killed my baby, and I want someone to tell the truth," he said Sunday.

Police have not identified the officer whose gun fired the shot that killed Aiyana. Godbee said he is a 14-year veteran with six to seven years on the Special Response Team, and that he has been placed on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.

The officer was cleared following a nonfatal shooting last summer. Police were fired upon by someone barricaded in a house and returned fire, Godbee said.
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby Sean » Mon May 17, 2010 7:00 pm

....sent shivers down my spine.....just absolutely fucking disgusting, and yes the profanity is necessary to show how disgusting.....my gods.....

I feel kind of sick. These stories rarely affect me like this. That's... I'm almost speechless.
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby Jay » Mon May 17, 2010 7:56 pm

The cops are becoming more and more like a military force. This latest incident is disgusting. No innocent lives should ever be put in harm's way. Killing a 7 year old is just criminal.

When the officer's name is released, street justice will catch up to him, whether it is actually on the street or in jail. Even the hardest of inmates can't stand a child killer or molester.
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby meteorite » Mon May 17, 2010 8:33 pm

No, Jay. There will be a coverup, there will be a charge and show trial to confuse the issue, the cop will be acquitted and back on the job within a few months. Maybe he'll get a desk job for a bit till things blow over.

North Americans live in an unacknowledged police state, simply from a total lack of interest in forcing accountability of the police. As the old bumper sticker said, "Your local police are armed and dangerous".
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby Barry Wolk » Sat May 22, 2010 10:27 am

Please point out the damning videotape. It doesn't seem to exist on youtube or anywhere else.

More Feiger bullshit grandstanding. Anybody that believes anything this ambulance chaser says is stupid.
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Re: Toledo officer convicted for shooting unarmed man in back

Postby meteorite » Sat May 22, 2010 6:28 pm

OK, please note we have two incidents here. The first one, in Toledo, has a link to the video in the first posting.

The Detroit shooting is said to have been captured on tape by a commercial video producer accompanying the police. The producer (as far as I can find out) has allowed the lawyer to view the tape but has not made it public. Presumably it will be subpoenaed and viewed in court, and may be aired commercially in the context of the purpose for which it was shot.

But if a pirate copy of the tape should show up, we will hope to fond a link to it.
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